Saturday, November 20, 2010

60% Of Liberals Want A New Leader

More bad news for Ignatieff as a recent poll has found that nearly 60% of Liberals think their party should have a new leader (where only 20% of Conservatives want to replace the Prime Minister). As Allan Greg said on the At Issue Panel "there is not just a disinterest in Ignatieff, there is an active disdain". When they went to Chantal Hebert, she went to her default position that the poll is bad news for Stephen Harper in Quebec. Granted I still remember Chantal predicting that the Tories would be completely wiped out in Quebec during the 2008 election campaign, and last time I checked we still have a strong Quebec caucus. Take her opinion for what it is worth.

Iggy's favourability numbers among his own party are even lower than Stephane Dion. I guess that explains why Dion defeated Ignatieff the only time they ran against each other in a leadership convention. Maybe next time they should actually have their membership vote on leadership instead of just installing the 2nd place guy in a bloodless coup after a failed attempt to overthrow the government and form a coalition with the Bloc Quebecois.

10 comments:

  1. rufusrastasjohnsonbrownNovember 20, 2010 at 4:12 PM

    Maybe next time they should actually have their membership vote on leadership .

    And therein lies the problem with the liberal party.The membership is just a funding source and has absolutely no voice outside of rubber stamping the party bosses descions,although they did try with Dion.Look at their front bench,mongrel loosers from other partys,spawn of glorys days,and never say merde career parasites from the cretin party of thieves.

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  2. The meltdown in the mid-terms for the Democrats was visible through the polls.

    In Canada we don't have anything near that against the incumbent. We have partisans in four parties divided that are not happy and cranky.

    I think both of us have looked at a 2% swing for CPC vs a massive upswing for LPOC to gain power.

    I don't get how the media can ignore the balance sheet and donors of 2009 vs 2010 drop off for the Liberals.

    The provincial Liberals are getting flak for taxes and policies making them toxic for Ignatieff in a campaign.

    Danny Williams has found a new punching bag and Charest is unable to defend himself or his Hydro against it.

    Can we imagine a wipe out of Liberals in ATL with NB and NL at the Federal level?

    I am coming to the realization a majority without QC is becoming more realistic if we sweep some Toronto seats. Imagine that.

    Ford beach head and Fantino behind enemy lines is making them hostile.

    The Lib blogs are in over drive whining about him.

    Steaks, hockey tickets are being used to get help on the phones. This points to things being really bad with finding volunteers.

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  3. The Liberals should have listened to us because we called this before THEY allowed it to happen.

    Messes like this, not once but 3 times (and they got worse not better) is the clearest indicator that the LPoC are not fit to lead this country.

    Ignatieff has been a complete joke and given his free media ride, those numbers if the media were being honest, would be a whole lot worse.

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  4. So the same saps who just sat there with that dumb look on their face when they were told who was going to be their next leader, don't like the choice made for them NOW?
    Why are they getting so uppity? Desperation perhaps.

    Will it ever dawn on these dummkopfs that it just might be “themselves” who are so repugnant to people who aren’t looking for a free lunch?

    When they start going on and on about the sacred “social safety net” they offer us, we know what it means. A cot in a busy hospital hallway for you and me to die in and a private room with lots of “soft comfy fur” for them.

    The whole bloody lot of them need to be deported back to where they get all their ideas and marching orders from.

    Obmama could use some more useful idiots about now.

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  5. Might there be a correlation between not choosing your party's leader and not wanting to donate as much or as often to the same party

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  6. Those Liberals who have been waiting for the Young Dauphin to take his anointed place must be practically drooling in anticipation right now.

    How this will work for the Liberal Party remains to be seen; Obamamania didn't work so well for the Democrat Party in the US now, did it?

    On the other hand, empty suits have a very limited shelf life in politics, so we should encourage the Liberals to bring on the Young Dauphin. Four empty suits in a row as leaders should kill their credibility forever.

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  7. To: Kerry Forrest
    Average Joe Libs have never financially supported the LPC in any significant manner, it has (in Cretien's time and before)always been Bay Street. This flies in the face of popular folklore that the Conservative Party is the party of Big Business.
    I find it hilarious that so many Libs are awaiting the messiah who will take them back to their rightful place in Canada. That messiah of course is Lord Justin of Turdeau who is awaiting appointment to his ordained throne.

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  8. If the Liberal party was ever foolish enough to hand the leadership to Rae or Trudeau it would be the end of the party in Canada. Any Canadian who lived through Rae days would be outraged. Any Canadian who lived through the Trudeau years and the disaster which befell the country with his official bilingualism policies which have run amok, National Energy Program which destroyed the Alberta economy, Wage and Price controls which only hurt the middle class and the Charter of Rights which has allowed minorities to run the country, not to mention multicultural policies, would certainly not support another Trudeau running the country.

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  9. Anonymous@6:33AM : that's unfair to Justin and you know it. The major thing telling against JT is his lack of experience, political and partisan. Canadian's don't expect him to be like his father (he's not as intellectual, for one thing).

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  10. G&M on why there is an 'enthusiasm gap' when it comes to Iffy
    here is the short:
    - Iffy isn't any more likeable than PMSH
    - the Just Visiting ads worked at first, but it's that no one talks about Iffy
    - can't blame staff/operatives, all good people
    ....so what's wrong?....
    - he appears full of himself (Just Visiting?)
    - champion of everything and nothing (hello Paul Martin)
    - appears 'insufficiently passionate' about what keeps Canadians up at night
    - rooky politician waiting for PMSH to screw up
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/bruce-anderson/michael-ignatieff-faces-daunting-enthusiasm-gap/article1807666/

    Dear Mr Anderson,
    in one (long) sentence:

    After having given him the benefit of the doubt after he was appointed Liberal leader,
    Canadians have decided Ignatieff does not have what it takes, in leadership skills and policy, to replace the current Prime Minister.

    And that, dear Libluvin media, is because PMSH is doing an excellent job.
    Iffy is just not qualified,
    and if Canadians wanted NDP policy, they would vote NDP.

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