It is an interesting moral question to ask why if they knew about it, why wouldn't they address it in the treaty? Either they were grossly incompetent at their jobs, or they recognized that there was a high probability that POWs could be tortured. To include monitors when there is a high probability of torture would increase the probability that the monitors witness acts of torture and report them. This would then be bad publicity that the failing Martin administration could not afford politically.
Colvin claimed that the torture was widespread when he arrived shortly after the Conservative election victory in 2006. He also declared in his testimony that the structure of the 2005 transfer agreement deliberately prevented the Red Cross from monitoring. He states that the agreement:
"Had no provision for our own officials to follow up on what happened to our detainees after they were handed to the Afghan intelligence service, the NDS, or National Directorate of Security.
In other words, in the critical days after a detainee was first transferred to the Afghan intelligence service, nobody was able to monitor them. Canada had decided that Canadians would not monitor. The AIHRC could not do so, because they had very weak capacity and were not allowed into NDS jails. The Red Cross in practice could not do so either, because we did not inform them until days, weeks, or months after we had handed over the detainee."
Now this Atteran guy is alleging that Canadian officials were deliberately flagging prisoners specifically to be tortured by Afghan officials, which coincidentally coincides with the release of the story that CSIS officials did indeed question prisoners before transferring them into Afghan custody. Did this "interrogation process" begin only after the Conservatives were elected, or was it taking place under the watchful eyes of John McCallum and Bill Graham? Attaran is refusing to show people his evidence because it is "too sensitive", and thus we need to take his word for it. Aren't the Liberals demanding that all these "sensitive documents" be released fully to the public with no omissions?
Here is some background info into what the Liberals were doing in Afghanistan prior to the Conservative victory in 2006.
2003–2005 Operation Athena
In August 2003, the Canadian Forces moved to the northern city of Kabul where it became the commanding nation of the newly formed International Security Assistance Force. Canada dubbed this Operation Athena and a 1,900-strong Canadian task force provided assistance to civilian infrastructure such as well-digging and repair of local buildings.
In March 2004, Canada committed $250 million in aid to Afghanistan, and $5 million to support the 2004 Afghan election.
On 13 February 2005, Defence Minister Bill Graham announced Canada was doubling the number of troops in Afghanistan by the coming summer, from 600 troops in Kabul to 1200.
In spring 2005 it was announced that the Canadian Forces would move back to the volatile Kandahar Province as the U.S. forces handed command to the Canadians in the region. Operation Athena ended in December 2005 and the fulfillment of the stated aim of "rebuilding the democratic process" in Afghanistan.
Silly, silly people. Don't you all know by now that the liberals knowing something is wrong is sufficient for their agenda. Only Conservatives are expected to act when something is wrong. it was the same with the adscam fraud. The Liberals knew about it, but in their minds (what little they have)that's equivalent to doing something to correct the problem. It is apparent every day in question period. The Liberals continue to claim that there are problems for which they offer no solutions.As the Iggomaniac said: "That's Harper's problem...not ours."
ReplyDeleteThe Liberals seem to be pursuing this because they don't think anything will be said about their involvement in the whole issue. They also know the MSM will have their backs. What they fail to understand is that many Canadians are looking at this and steaming because it shows a lack of respect for our troops.
ReplyDelete''...Neve said that Amnesty raised concern as early as 2002, when Canada was handing prisoners over to U.S. forces in Afghanistan, and then reiterated those warnings in 2005 when Canadian soldiers began to directly transfer detainees to Afghan control...
ReplyDeleteThe Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission warned in 2004 — and reiterated in subsequent years — that abuse in prisons is commonplace and that it occurs particularly at the investigation stage in order to extort confessions from detainees...''
http://www.canada.com/news/Diplomat+alone+sound+alarm+detainees+Amnesty/2260329/story.html
And even knowing of claims torture and killings taking place in Afghan jails, the Liberal government signed a handover agreement with Afghan authorities:
On May 31, 2005, Graham and Hillier met Afghanistan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah to discuss the possibility of a bilateral “framework agreement,” according to the briefing note.
In a July 28 letter, Hillier asked Graham for authority to work toward the negotiation of a bilateral agreement on the treatment of detainees.
Graham signed off on the plan...
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=870fe676-f503-436a-bef2-e61c1938922d
It is entirely in Harper's control to call a judicial inquiry to look at the period 2002 to th epresent. BUT, he does not do that. What is Harp hiding?
ReplyDeleteIt is entirely in the Oppositions control to bring down the government, win an election and go gung ho on war crimes theories...what are they scared of?
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter, start with the government that we have now and let the inquiry go as far back as it needs to go....as a nation we need to get to the bottom of this.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom of what?
ReplyDeleteWhat is thing that we need to get to the bottom of?
The day that the LIBERALS and DIPPERS give a rats pitewee about VICTIMS in this country called Canada, is the day that I'll take these despicable self serving allegations seriously.
ReplyDeleteUntil then, they have no credibility and should climb down off of their monster called hypocrisy.
More on the Liberals and detainees at "The Torch":
ReplyDeleteMaybe some former Liberal ministers should be worrying about their asses
Facts: The previous Liberal government and Afghan detainees
"Torture in Afghanistan: The Liberals knew" redux
Afghan detainees and the former Liberal government/Human rights Update
(letter in Globe and Mail)
Mark
Ottawa
The bottom of what?
ReplyDeleteExactly......
The Judge will determine what unredacted docs should be released to the public.
And having access to ALL docs,
the Judge would not ignore any REAL evidence of war crimes.
It's all over Iffy,
sit back and go for the ride or Libs will wear this, big time.