Reading and listening to the media outrage over F35-gate, you would be convinced that the consensus opinion in Canada is to have gasoline and insurance costs included in the sticker price when you go to buy a car. If the dealership does not put your cost of fuel for the next 30 years in the purchase price, then it is lying deceit and the salesman should resign. It's that simple, or stupid, depending on how you choose to look at it. The dealership should attempt to guess what oil changes will cost in 2040, and then include their guesses in the 2012 price of purchasing the vehicle. It shouldn't matter if you are already paying a similar amount for maintaining and operating your existing car, you must guess how much the next 30 years of associated expenses will cost and put that in the current price. And if you're off, you must resign.
F35-gate has proven to be another case of crying wolf when there is no wolf present. The Tories campaigned on the cost of NEW expenditures, but others disagreed with what should be included in the price tag even before the election. If this was such a grand controversy worthy of the Prime Minister resigning, why weren't the opps able to hammer him on this during the campaign? This cost debate started well before election day. Now you have the media spinning Peter McKay's response of a difference in accounting procedures as him blaming an "accounting error". McKay never said it was an error, it was a matter of campaigning on the cost of new expenditures and not money we already spend on our current air force.
Today's poll question; Should costs already incurred by the Canadian air force be included in the purchase price of new jets?
Those trying to say the PM lied re costs or whatever and won the election on said lie are on another planet. The ballot question was, majority or coalition with Jack as PM.
ReplyDeleteAnd voter better make sure the WRA gets a slim or major majority or we will have the lib/ndp making all final decisions to put their plans in place.
Was it?
DeleteActually what people like me are saying is more like 'if you're buying a car you should include expenses like gasoline and insurance in your budgeting. And not lie.' Could you be worse at making comparisons?
ReplyDeleteLike how Bev Oda lied? Wasn't that at the top of the shit list when the opposition forced an election that produced a Conservative majority?
DeleteWe've been through this before.
Only Conservatives can defend this.
ReplyDeleteYeah, like only Conservatives could defend delaying the next session of Parliament for a few weeks to host the Olympics. In the hypocrisy of it all, the Liberals were the most absent party when it came to showing up to work once Parliament resumed.
DeleteWe've been through this before.
"Actually what people like me are saying is more like 'if you're buying a car you should include expenses like gasoline and insurance in your budgeting. And not lie.' Could you be worse at making comparisons?"
ReplyDeleteAll MP's vote on the motions to pay those fuel and salary costs on a yearly basis. For them and the media to state they were unaware of those costs shows nothing but incompetence on their own side.
Another occasion where faggy little leather boys hide in the shadows and call the PM names. To say that this is a "No Smoke, No Fire" situation is an understatement. 30 years of pilot wages plus fuel and ammo. Amazing that anyone could be that stupid.
ReplyDeleteHo hum. How many other fabricated scandals/outrage have been trotted out since the election? When this attempt fails like all the others they will try to invent another one.
ReplyDeleteI really think it is time to SUE the ass off of some of these idiots.As newspaper reporters and opposition members of parliament to start lies and phony scandals & rumors constantly should be punished immediately and not with an apology.These idiots have got to learn a hard lesson with a hard jail sentence or very high fine.
ReplyDeleteThis whole media generated "fiasco" has gone from mind numbingly contrived to mind numbingly contrived and absurd. The Media are desperate to manufacture a narrative that suits their purpose's of, taking down the Government while they continue to fight the "war" against the Government that the opposition are incapable of fighting on their own. The narrative that will be used 3 years from now when the Media go full retard in a specious attempt at getting the lefty's "back to power'. The Media will continue to run manufactured smear campaigns against the elected Government up until the next election where the Media will have a ready made narrative. I'm reminded of when "Liberal" voting Libertarian Andrew Coyne threw out the last of whatever credibility he had left by saying he was voting for the "Abscammers" because the Cons needed to be punished for their "abuses"... like, "censusgate" and "poroguegate". According to Coyne "logic" voting for a political party that stole 100's of millions of dollars from the treasury to launder through bogus advertising companies and then kicked back to the "Liberals" is less a transgression then governing from the center right. Theft of taxpayer money for your own benefit is okay if you're a "Liberal", but God help you if your a Conservative and you change the mandatory long form census or porogue Parliament to stop an attempted coup of Separatists, "Liberals" and Commies. "Jetgate' is the latest attempt by the Media to manufacture what they hope will be one of a long list of manufactured "scandals" used as attacks and excuses to throw out the Government in the next election and put the crooks back in charge. This kind of activist bullshit from the Media is frustrating and corrupt, but IMHO very predictable. "Robogate", Jetgate", the list of bullshit "scandals" is growing like a weed, attempting to manufacture discontent.
ReplyDeleteA good family friend of mine died in a liberal sea king helicopter crash. I say liberal because it's on them for cancelling the project. Ask around here about lib-dippers and whether people would vote for them and you'll get a strange look like you're asking if the sky is blue. No chance it would ever happen. Glub glub glub is the sound of the piece of crap sinking subs that still aren't serviceable lib-dippers. So yeah let's go three for three and cancel the damn F-35 and listen to the lib-dippers on military procurement. I'm sure that will work out well.
ReplyDeleteIt's not so much that they lied or deceived I'm used to the games leaders use to avoid truly leading it is more about a government that expects its citizens to cut back on healthcare and retirement plans in order to purchase flying death machines.
ReplyDeleteReally Canada what is the best model flying death machine for the rest of us?
Is there a flying death machine that can shorten the lineups at emerg?
Is there a better flying death machine that will help our farmers increase their yields and profit?
How aboot a terrific big ass flying death machine that looks good at air shows AND helps reduce class sizes in our public schools?
Education is a provincial responsibility.
ReplyDeleteHealth care is a provincial responsibility.
Profits and yields for farmers are their responsibility.
The federal government is responsible for national defense. I want our guys to fly top of the line, not biplanes when push comes to shove.
The world is moving to 5th generation aircraft. Canada doesn't build them. Our aircraft industry built a superior airframe called the Avro Arrow. Just like any "new" technology, what you thought it might cost, costs more. Cancelling that technology (it was superior to anything the US had at the time) drove jobs and industry south of the 49th. Never came back. Now we're going through the same process, only via the US.
Who are the opposition shilling for? China? Russia? The Cold War never ended folks. Deal with it.