tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post5214772679556309870..comments2023-07-14T03:26:19.215-07:00Comments on The Iceman: Absorbing The Bloc: NDP Strategy?The_Icemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16887740772649135851noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-32816042630978713282011-08-03T17:03:37.439-07:002011-08-03T17:03:37.439-07:00Quebecers thought they were pulling a fast one. Qu...Quebecers thought they were pulling a fast one. Quebecers found out that the biggest obstacle to a coalition of socialists and separatists was the open declaration of the Bloc as separatists themselves. Quebecers thought that hiding the separatist movements cause under the banner of the NDP would fool Canadians and take away Canadians resistance to a coalition. A coalition of separatists and socialists by stealth. Turmel and her separatist comrades thought they could hide away in the NDP and be more palatable to the rest of Canadians, but they have been caught out, with the inevitable result.Sean Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-23465735478861069372011-08-03T15:08:12.992-07:002011-08-03T15:08:12.992-07:00http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/08/03/joh...http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/08/03/john-baglow-in-defence-of-nycole-turmel-staunch-federalist/<br /><br /><br />John Baglow,aka Dr.Dawg,has written an article at the National Post in which he swears Turmel's a federalist.<br /><br />Baglow, a card-carrying member of the NDP, was apparently VP of the PSAC for nine years while Turmel was President. <br /><br />So, I'm sure we can take his solemn word that Turmel's a loyal Canadian.<br /><br />Sure we can. Of course.<br /><br />I would NEVER suggest otherwise.dmorrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00068077596719584731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-78770876641416945342011-08-03T13:32:01.478-07:002011-08-03T13:32:01.478-07:00The BQ was a National Socialist Party (i.e. dedica...The BQ was a National Socialist Party (i.e. dedicated to having the State distribute resources on the basis of ethnic background) while the NDP is a Social Democratic Party (i.e. having the State distribute resources on the basis of class). Since there isn't too much difference between them, shifting from one to the other is an almost natural fit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-57480399069387065542011-08-03T13:15:32.727-07:002011-08-03T13:15:32.727-07:00The only surprise in the Barton interview is that ...The only surprise in the Barton interview is that Barton actually did a much better job than one would expect from the CBC in trying to dig around the pretzel logic of this farce.<br /><br />nomdeblogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-76901388597632629332011-08-03T10:18:16.332-07:002011-08-03T10:18:16.332-07:00The NDP has to rally around Turmel, because is the...The NDP has to rally around Turmel, because is they admit that Bloc membership is bad, they risk alienating a significant chunk of their new "base". They will destroy their popularity outside of Quebec in order to save the seats they have. Watch the Barton interview, Turmel is way out of her league being the leader of a major political party. She can barely handle basic questions, and her english is terrible.The_Icemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16887740772649135851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-82692027682780405652011-08-03T08:17:08.223-07:002011-08-03T08:17:08.223-07:00I want to know if she attended any meeting of the ...I want to know if she attended any meeting of the Bloc, or conventions etc. Did she write letters to papers to support them. How involved was she in the campaigns of the candidates her union supported.<br />What else would she do for a friend, jump off a bridge, join a protest, or just join their party.maryThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10099534478709227356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-64846375220212617272011-08-03T06:57:59.612-07:002011-08-03T06:57:59.612-07:00She had her fingers crossed behind her back when s...She had her fingers crossed behind her back when she joined the BLOC so she never really meant it, see.<br />She is an opportunist in the same mold as Bob Rae.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-47382696174837155492011-08-03T06:53:55.997-07:002011-08-03T06:53:55.997-07:00This whole move to overtake the NDP began back in ...This whole move to overtake the NDP began back in the 1970's and is continuing on it's natural path.<br />The first successes for the separatists was the absorption of CUPW and it continued on to PSAC and others.<br />Most spin writers have the issue reversed. It isn't the NDP grabbing the separatists, it's the other way around. The PDB people have grabbed the NDP.<br />As a foot note I want to remind everyone how very frightening is their anti-Semitic behavior has been.melvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10456025892049854709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-81371900146720685372011-08-03T05:56:15.391-07:002011-08-03T05:56:15.391-07:00We have to be more nuanced about this. If we take ...We have to be more nuanced about this. If we take these progressive One Worlders at their word then believe them when they say they don’t care about sovereignty… they are simply about redistributing other people’s money.<br /><br />Turmel was president of the 150,000-member Public Service Alliance of Canada for six years, she spoke of her commitment to social justice (whatever that means) and equality and fairness…that means taking your hard earned money and letting the One Worlders be charitable with it. Before stepping down, from the Federal PSAC she endorsed the union’s decision to support four Bloc candidates in the 2006 federal election. She says that doesn’t make her a Separatist. Ok then what does it make her?<br /><br />Separatists and government unions have one thread in common. They keep telling us that it isn’t about sovereignty and we should believe them because they certainly don’t care about Canada. The NDP in the ROC need to do some deep soul searching about how Jack has high-jacked their Party.<br /><br />nomdeblogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-57290306510770175702011-08-03T05:54:22.471-07:002011-08-03T05:54:22.471-07:00I guess bloc seperatists thought they were being c...I guess bloc seperatists thought they were being crafty.In reality they simply moved to the NDP.Ive always said give people enough rope and they always hang themselves.Bye bye NDP nice knowing you.Now we know the difference between the Liberal party and the NDP.<br /><br />JoshuaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com