tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post4929787520206677820..comments2023-07-14T03:26:19.215-07:00Comments on The Iceman: Christmas: Liberals Need MoneyThe_Icemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16887740772649135851noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-73811755161257780262010-12-21T23:23:27.165-08:002010-12-21T23:23:27.165-08:00Merry Christmas Brian. I rarely agree with you, I ...Merry Christmas Brian. I rarely agree with you, I think you are misguided, but I don't have a beef with you. You enjoy debating semantics, which I seldom have the time to do. It is what it is, but Merry Kwanzaa none the less.The_Icemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16887740772649135851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-42989566786608312302010-12-21T13:50:18.341-08:002010-12-21T13:50:18.341-08:00Christian Conservative don't be shocked that s...Christian Conservative don't be shocked that some of the liberals had not repaid their loans nor, will you ever hear a peep of this in the msm since they are forbitten to do so.<br /><br />Why don't you write on your blog about the EC atititude towards the liberals and how much the liberals still own EC. <br />If the media are afraid to do the job, then you have to do it.Jennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-39625466805869066942010-12-21T13:16:12.396-08:002010-12-21T13:16:12.396-08:00CS, I do get it, believe me. I just think that it...CS, I do get it, believe me. I just think that it is not appropriate for politicians to be asking for donations at this time of year.<br /><br />A Merry Christmas to you, too... and to Iceman and his readers. Cheers!Brian Busbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04120341319506205062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-21205066775691874192010-12-21T12:39:12.401-08:002010-12-21T12:39:12.401-08:00Brian,
You still don't get it. A plea to help...Brian,<br /><br />You still don't get it. A plea to help repay a personal loan is not equivalent asking for money for the party for "x".<br /><br />Political parties regularly ask for donations. <br /><br />Asking for donations to fight for keeping or scrapping the the long gun registry or keeping fines and mandatory long form census is an example.<br /><br />We have Liberals using a raffle to win some "art" from Kennedy and a skate-date with Ken to help them settle their "personal" loans.<br /><br />If Conservatives asked for donations for a MPs personal hospital bill it would be the same. <br /><br />Clearly it is not the same. I can't speak to Iceman's motivation for his post.<br /><br />Asking for donations is not "wrong", it may appear to be crass and bad form to ask for help for personal loans during the Christmas holidays. (That's what I picked up from Iceman)<br /><br />Brian btw Merry Christmas.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-74049919240632009762010-12-21T12:33:29.007-08:002010-12-21T12:33:29.007-08:00Seriously? They're STILL unpaid? I thought t...Seriously? They're STILL unpaid? I thought this issue would have died long ago, I had no idea that these debts were STILL outstanding. Why hasn't the media pounced on this yet? If I'm correct, these are now legally considered "illegal donations", correct?Christian Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08209597951882278141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-6539161258851225722010-12-21T11:53:51.735-08:002010-12-21T11:53:51.735-08:00"Brian doesn't appreciate the problem&quo..."Brian doesn't appreciate the problem"? Well, I don't see that I so much as addressed the problem - after all, it wasn't part of the post. What I did was make the observation that both Liberals and Conservatives are asking for donations during the Christmas season. Simple, really... and to these eyes, wrong-headed.Brian Busbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04120341319506205062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-2912204162399078932010-12-21T10:53:33.109-08:002010-12-21T10:53:33.109-08:00Brian does not appreciate the problem.
Loans were...Brian does not appreciate the problem.<br /><br />Loans were taken out in 2005-2006? A campaign in 2008 has already taken place. Did these loans give the leadership an unfair advantage during the General election campaign?<br /><br />How many of those failed leadership candidates were saved by Elections Canada in giving out another extension?<br /><br />It would have been fairer to apply the loans against the spending limits of the Liberals in the General Elections until debts are paid off.<br /><br />Fundraising by political parties is different than personal loans.CanadianSensehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01010880162544507668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-59601969512524739512010-12-21T10:08:12.430-08:002010-12-21T10:08:12.430-08:00Will the take cdn tire money, I have .15 I could s...Will the take cdn tire money, I have .15 I could send, but wont.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-18209342798510301022010-12-21T09:40:35.124-08:002010-12-21T09:40:35.124-08:00They should be on the hook for the loans themselve...They should be on the hook for the loans themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-68194932682246645612010-12-21T09:18:47.003-08:002010-12-21T09:18:47.003-08:00Hey Brian....so much the same that it appears that...Hey Brian....so much the same that it appears that these "leadership" candidates are being allowed to flaunt elections Canada's rules. <br /><br />http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=bkg&document=ec90531&lang=e<br /><br />"The loan must be repaid within 18 months after the end of a leadership contest (or later with the approval of the Chief Electoral Officer or a judge, or following a legal proceeding to recover payment) and must be repaid out of funds in the campaign account.<br /><br />Where necessary, fundraising for additional contributions can continue to be done after the leadership contest to secure funds to repay any outstanding debt. Those contributions continue to be subject to the eligibility, caps and disclosure rules of the Canada Elections Act.<br /><br />Where a campaign cannot repay a loan within the 18 months following the contest, it may apply to the Chief Electoral Officer for authorization to make late payments. This is a discretionary decision of the Chief Electoral Officer, and borrowers and lenders should not assume that such approval will be granted."<br /><br /> Funny, I haven't heard anything about elections Canada and these leadership candidates who continue to hold outstanding debt. <br /><br />Yet they continually beat down the doors to the Conservative offices over every little supposed infraction only to find out later that....whoops....they were wrong. <br /><br />Like I said, Brian....EXACTLY THE SAME!!!Alberta Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285990094040133979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-49422244113312711542010-12-21T09:10:06.693-08:002010-12-21T09:10:06.693-08:00Yeah Brian...that's EXACTLY the same...
Let&#...Yeah Brian...that's EXACTLY the same...<br /><br />Let's see - a party asking for donations vs shilling for those who ran for the leadership of a party to pay off their debts. <br /><br />Yeah...the same....Alberta Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08285990094040133979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-20149791667452200132010-12-21T09:05:33.472-08:002010-12-21T09:05:33.472-08:00Sadly, this Christmas season the cash-rich Conserv...Sadly, this Christmas season the cash-rich Conservatives are doing much the same thing. See <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/tories-make-holiday-fundraising-pitch/article1838836/" rel="nofollow">Senator Gerstein's letter of 10 December to the party faithful</a>.Brian Busbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04120341319506205062noreply@blogger.com