tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post3338705868764429158..comments2023-07-14T03:26:19.215-07:00Comments on The Iceman: Liberals Dreaming 2011 Replay Of 1993The_Icemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16887740772649135851noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-15874663759110935882011-03-15T05:04:50.420-07:002011-03-15T05:04:50.420-07:00It looks more like 2008 all over again, than 1993!...It looks more like 2008 all over again, than 1993!<br />Iffy promising Quebecers anything they want.<br />Even got Brison out praising the BC Carbon Tax yesterday.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-21209255224077344552011-03-14T19:29:50.779-07:002011-03-14T19:29:50.779-07:00Other things to remember:
1993: Liberals facing a...Other things to remember:<br /><br />1993: Liberals facing a neophyte in Kim Campbell. 2011: Liberals facing Stephen Harper.<br /><br />1993: Liberals had an experienced veteran campaigner in Jean Chretien.<br />2011: Liberals have Michael Ignatieff, who only campaigned once (for the 2007 leadership), did not lead in the 2008 election and was appointed leader without campaigning.<br /><br />1993: Canadian electorate had nearly a decade of Brian Mulroney, who took Canada through Free Trade, Meech Lake and Charlottetown.<br />2011: Canadian electorate had five years of Stephen Harper, who did a GST reduction and continued participation in Afghanistan.<br /><br />Conclusion: Harper does not have the baggage of Muluroney, and the Liberals will be in for a world of suffering if they don't start paying attention.PhantomObserverhttp://phantomobserver.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-80346691360199417862011-03-14T19:08:53.360-07:002011-03-14T19:08:53.360-07:00Paulsstuff, it was also the emergence of the BLOQ ...Paulsstuff, it was also the emergence of the BLOQ with their 54 votes, some conservative, as well as a constant vilification of Mulroney, similar to Harper (for better reasons), by the Liberal media. <br /><br />A lot has changed since 1993, with the BLOQ holding so many seats. <br /><br />And it is really clear now that the Liberals have a math deficit. They do not even get demographics. Many middle class baby boomers are not all worried about paying for university and caring for parents. We can and have paid our own way, thanks, and did not ever vote for these social programs. I never wanted EI and I will never get OAS. CPP will be taxed to zero. <br /><br />The early boomers (born 1946) are retired and paying wads of taxes on their pensions and investments, and many of our parents are dead. Some middle boomers probably have concerns about caring for aging parents, but there are generous write-offs, and some may be concerned about education, but many of the children have already gone through post-secondary (P.S. only 30% do), except for the divorced second families (sorry, you could not get along with your first pick - get out of my wallet, as divorce is the most costly decision one can make after having a child). <br /><br />Anyone born in the last phase (1960-1964) probably does worry about all of issues (and so did we, then as we were broke while making good salaries, as it was all taxed away!). <br /><br />The Libs continue to appeal to a very narrow urban demographic. Have a good time. I just hope we do not have to spend 300M to get rid of their incompetent leader. Ditto for Christy Clark of BC.<br /><br />They talk to themselves.Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16921877138481877250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-38300839420956372472011-03-14T18:36:25.580-07:002011-03-14T18:36:25.580-07:00Now let’s see.
Way back then, they had Lying Bria...Now let’s see. <br />Way back then, they had Lying Brian Mulphoney, who stupidly shackled Canadians with the GST, then bee lined it for his Corporate directorships and his hot date with I-Karly at Motel 6. The outcome of all this was a “walk in the park” win. But the fact is that it was much more a defeat and repudiation of Mulphoney then it was a victory for that other Quebec crook who took over from him.<br />If there is any similarity to 1993, it’ll be that the Liberal will be taking the beating this time.<br />As far as the lying, dirt-bagging Toronto media goes, they’ve been reading all the screeching kooks who populate their comment section for so long, they think they have the win in the bag. I can hardly wait to see the sappy look on their loathsome mugs when reality hits then right between the eyes.Blame Crashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03736137844334640019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-32600597663281187102011-03-14T18:24:35.572-07:002011-03-14T18:24:35.572-07:00"The Liberals are 4th in Quebec and supportin..."The Liberals are 4th in Quebec and supporting the arena won't give them one seat in Quebec" said Jean Lappierre on PP.<br />If anyone watched their committee manipulations today on CPAC ,it won't get them any votes.No wonder they are stuck at 23% and will most likely drop even lower. Dion must be rejoycing.Wonder if his seat will be safe?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-63252377719677563102011-03-14T18:13:21.486-07:002011-03-14T18:13:21.486-07:00The reason for Chretien's win in '93 was M...The reason for Chretien's win in '93 was Mulroney bringing in the gst. Plain and simple.paulsstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01813949388254801232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-82085016585686912642011-03-14T18:03:59.770-07:002011-03-14T18:03:59.770-07:00Just a noisy form of political suicide for Iggy.
...Just a noisy form of political suicide for Iggy. <br />They simply don't have the guts or the honesty to turff him without an election. <br />Bring it on, I say. It's worth all those pesky donation phone calls if it bleeds some more money from Liberal coffers.ridenrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15238308195535796308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6573500847704693761.post-76639529060510557752011-03-14T17:08:41.475-07:002011-03-14T17:08:41.475-07:00The Libs are sucking in the polls, that is pretty ...The Libs are sucking in the polls, that is pretty much the only thing similar to 1993. If having horrible poll numbers is what it takes to win government then we would have PM Dion right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com